The book Alcibiades the Schoolboy was originally written in Italian, in , and then translated into French by, perhaps, Édouard Cléder. Due to the expense of. The book Alcibiades the Schoolboy was originally written in Italian, in , and then translated into French by, perhaps, Édouard Cléder. Results 1 – 8 of 8 Alcibiades the Schoolboy by Antonio; Rawnsley, J. C. (translator) Rocco and a great selection of related books, art and collectibles available.
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There was a profound contradiction over pederasty in early modern Italy.
Alcibiades the Schoolboy
This alcibiafes, also from the Italian, was by Brian Williams, M. Want to Read saving…. Goodreads helps you keep track of books you want to read. Not just his pornographic works, but all the fruit of his pen proved wildly successful commercially, making Aretino the best-selling author of his day, and for a long period afterward.
Alcibiades’s schoolmaster Philotimes is dying to consummate his love for ghe pupil and has to overcome with reason the full array of early modern arguments against sodomy raised by the initially reluctant boy, until the latter is finally eager to accept him.
Oliver Layton Press, Lists with This Thw. Several of these oppositions can be disposed of rather quickly. Eglinton” pseudonym, and Bradley’s husband from The text is unashamedly explicit, and it has been argued that “it must be understood in the context of similar texts of the trend of libertinismusing the term in its original sense of a sceptical philosophical tendency.
Murray has proposed a model of multiple homosexualities containing three strands, all of which may be present in any culture, but one or two of which always predominate, while the other one or two recede or disappear.
Rocco was the most important of a tiny number of writers who dared counter the various arguments of Thf, law and nature which were supposed to justify this persecution.
He argues that Nature gave us sexual organs for our own pleasure, and that it would insult her to use them otherwise, citing examples from Greek mythology and culture, as well as refuting counterarguments based on the Sodom and Gomorrah story.
At a rather higher level a presentation of the same argument, that the text is a critique of sodomy, can be found in a recent discussion of L’Alcibiade by Armando Maggi.
Alcibiades the Schoolboy (book) – BoyWiki
The authorship of Alcibiades schoolbpy at least as tangled as its publishing history. The egalitarian model gains strength in the late 17th and 18th century, although age-structured relations do not disappear, and there seems, from the Molly Houses of the 18th century through the transvestites of late Victorian homosexual life, to have been scnoolboy more significant presence of gender-structured relationships as well.
Afterword Until now, the history of Alcibiades the Schoolboy in English began, and to all intents and purposes ended, on the back cover of another work of fiction with a similar theme, the Asbestos Diary by “Casimir Dukahz. As Neri also noted, this suggests that Loredano, as the source of the manuscript, had at least some role in the publication of the book, if indeed he was not the actual publisher. Now, whose arguments are these? Books by Antonio Rocco.
For what purpose was it intended? It still remains the entry under which the book is found in many bibliographical authorities to this day.
Alcibiades The Schoolboy
Those interested in LGBT history. He has also annotated the translation only to the extent he felt it necessary for the reader’s convenience.
On one hand, the authorities followed the church in denouncing and fiercely persecuting all sodomy. Rocco’s own book remains nearly as forbidden as ever, this the only English translation published having become schoolbo unobtainable within a few years and the form of love it upholds newly persecuted with an intensity the mediaeval inquisition could only have dreamed of managing. Scott marked it as to-read Jul 11, Although not an Italian scholar, in addition to his fluency in French Mr. The first time this little-known 17th century classic has appeared in English.
On the other hand, recent research such as Rocke’s statistical study of Florentine court records in his Forbidden Schiolboy has proven alfibiades reports of contemporary writers that most men were involved with boys, and reinforced their implication that attraction to both women and boys was taken for granted whether or not acted on. The work by Rocco is an amazing justification for initiating a sexual relationship between a adolescent boy and an older man, his teacher. Lest it be supposed to be a sombre treatise, the fun should be explained too.
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Mina Soare added it Dec 10, Teodelina added it May 21, Alcibiades’s schoolmaster Philotimes is dying to consummate his love for his pupil and has to overcome with reason the full array of early modern arguments against sodomy raised by the initially reluctant boy, until the latter is finally eager to accept him. Lionel Pelletier rated it really liked it Jan 05, Whatever the case, he did not attach his name to this manuscript, although it is possible to see the “D. Just a moment while we sign you schoolboyy to your Goodreads alcibaides.
Pipkia marked it as to-read Jan 08, Many will be offended by this work and its discussion and consider it a justification of child abuse—especially those lacking historical context and who cannot come to terms with human nature, Remember Traduttore traditore 7 of 10 stars, more for the discussion than the dialogue.
Gay, with or without quote marks? Of the first edition of the work, apparently published in Venice in earlythere are no known surviving copies; evidence for this edition comes from contemporary letters. About twenty years later another publisher, Global Academic Press, again announced an English translation as appearing shortly.
Nor could he foresee the perversity of an age which would see the sexual abuse of boys, which he fiercely denounced himself, as a justification for terrorising men and boys genuinely in love.
Considering all the old arguments against homosexuality have largely been abandoned in modern Europe, it is ironic that the only beneficiaries have been men loving men, described by Philotimes as “mere beasts” for their goatish tastes.
Mader overstates an important point: In this it offers a valuable lesson to modern writers on sexual matters whose dour vocabulary tends to be at odds with the joy which should be at the heart of their subject. Views Read Edit View history.
Valdemar marked it as to-read Oct 04, It is his name, then, which beginning in appears as author on the new title page of the French translations published in Brussels although they also reproduce a facsimile of the Italian title page ofwith the “D.
Today a new Rocco is badly needed, for despite doing his best to answer all, Philotimes was unable to anticipate a day when the adolescent consent to sex he fought so hard and well to obtain would be held in contempt. Front matter is interesting and seems well-researched, though I’d need to familiarize myself with more of the source material to be sure. On one hand, the authorities followed the church in denouncing and fiercely persecuting all sodomy.